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1080s are out

Post #1 by huddy » Fri May 27, 2016 2:48 pm

Thanks Greg for explaining the difference between bet the FE and non FE but why is the non FE, which is clocked higher, nearly £100 less?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-gefo ... 26-ms.html



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Post #2 by Ezikkiel » Fri May 27, 2016 4:02 pm

Chill blast e-mailed me earlier about getting a system with one of these bad boys in xD
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Post #3 by whyscotty » Sat May 28, 2016 6:12 am

Managed to resist so far, was due to get one yesterday - correct decision? - time will tell
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Post #4 by ALXAndy » Sun May 29, 2016 1:43 pm

whyscotty wrote:Managed to resist so far, was due to get one yesterday - correct decision? - time will tell


lmao good lad. Don't do it !. Rewind your mind back to when Nvidia were first talking about Maxwell. Pascal did not exist.. It was Maxwell and then Volta. So where did Pascal come from? it's nothing but Maxwell on speed after Nvidia have wrung its neck. If you don't get what I mean by that have a look around and see how they boost and how poorly they overclock. It's pretty obvious Nvidia have squeezed it pretty damn hard to make it perform better than the Titan X and 980ti. However, in the cold light of day things are pretty different.

The only benchmark I seem to be able to replicate to see how things fare is Rise Of The Tomb Raider. I'm personally using a Titan X on a EVGA Hybrid which I deliberately bought in spite of the 1080 knowing it was coming.. Any way, let's have a look at how good the 1080 is in Tomb Raider, which is one of the few games that show the 1080 out in the lead by 30%.

If you take a look at this review on Arstech.

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/0 ... 80-review/

And pay attention specifically to the ROTTR bench @ 1440p. I too am running that resolution so last night I decided I would benchmark my Titan X on a Hybrid compared to the 1080. First up Ars's rig spec.

TEST SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
OS Windows 10
CPU Intel Core i7-5930K, 6-core @ 4.5GHz
RAM 32GB Corsair DDR4 @ 3,000MHz
HDD 512GB Samsung SM951 M.2 PCI-e 3.0 SSD, 500GB Samsung Evo SSD
MOTHERBOARD ASUS X99 Deluxe USB 3.1
POWER SUPPLY Corsair HX1200i
COOLING Corsair H110i GT liquid cooler

And mine.

OS Windows 10
CPU Intel Core i7-5820k, 6-core @ 4.4GHz
RAM 16GB Crucial DDR4 @ 2133mhz
HDD 240gb Sandisk Ultra boot & 480gb OCZ Arc 100 storage (where I have the game)
MOTHERBOARD MSI/Alienware OEM
POWER SUPPLY Corsair AX1200
COOLING Asetek 120mm single rad.

OK, so if we look carefully we can see that Ars is using a rig quite closely matched to mine. However, he has an extra 100mhz on his GPU and 3000mhz memory. This could well make a difference and I imagine it does. Any way, my Titan X is overclocked by 230mhz on the core (giving game boosts of around 1364mhz shown in the pic) and my VGA memory is clocked 400mhz over the stock speed. TBH after looking around these clocks should be quite manageable by any one. I also need to point out that due to the strange PCIE layout on my board only the centre of the three main PCIE slots is X16. All other slots run at X8, as we can see from the picture here.

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This could also lose me a little performance. Let's say 3%.

OK so here is the results from Arstech.

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Note that the 1080 was also overclocked in this review. And here is the result from my Titan X.

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However, it doesn't quite end there. Take a look at this chart.

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That is what happens to the 1080 FE when overclocked and put in a case. It would actually be quite a bit slower than my Titan X which can maintain its clocks permanently.

What am I trying to say here? well, if you own a 980ti or Titan X please do not fall for Nvidia's clever marketing. The 1080 is hardly any better than what you have now, and you should not be considering or buying the 1080 under any circumstance. If you have already ordered one and still have your old card? send it back ! But for the love of god please don't fall into the trap. In a few months time we will be at it all over again with big Pascal and the 1080ti is pretty obviously going to smash the 1080 to pieces.

So yeah, that's it really. Hold on to what you have and don't be persuaded by 5-8% more performance. It really offers nothing in the real world.
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Re: 1080s are out

Post #5 by Scotchjock » Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:52 am

whyscotty wrote:Managed to resist so far, was due to get one yesterday - correct decision? - time will tell

Yep, wait for the 1080ti, 1080 isn't a big enough jump, enjoy your 980ti for a while longer, good things come to those who wait. :D
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